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Why the "Roth vs Traditional IRA" Math Everyone Gets Wrong Could Cost You Thousands

7/31/2025

 

With tax cuts set to expire at the end of 2025, everyone's talking about the "Rothification" movement. And honestly...

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With tax cuts set to expire at the end of 2025, everyone's talking about the "Rothification" movement. And honestly, it's about time. But there's one piece of Roth IRA math that almost everyone gets wrong – and it's leading to some seriously bad financial decisions.
The mistake? Comparing your current marginal tax rate to your future marginal tax rate when deciding between Roth and traditional retirement accounts. This oversimplified approach is costing people thousands in lost tax efficiency.
Let me show you why the real math is more favorable to Roth IRAs than most people realize.

​The Tax Bracket Trap Everyone Falls Into Here's the flawed logic we hear constantly:
"I'm 45 years old making good money. I'm in the 22% tax bracket now. If my Roth IRA grows more than 22% over time, I'll break even compared to a traditional IRA. Since the market averages about 10% annually, I should just pay the taxes now with a Roth and let it grow tax-free."
Sounds reasonable, right? Wrong.
This thinking makes a fundamental error about how taxes actually work in retirement.

Understanding Marginal vs. Effective Tax Rates When you contribute to a traditional 401(k) or IRA, you're saving taxes at your marginal rate – the rate on your last dollar earned. But when you withdraw that money in retirement, you'll pay taxes at your effective rate – your blended rate across all tax brackets.
Let's break this down with a real example:
Today: You're married filing jointly, earning $95,000. Your marginal tax rate is 22%, but if you contribute $5,000 to a traditional 401(k), you actually drop back into the 12% bracket on that contribution.
In Retirement: When you withdraw money from that traditional IRA, you won't pay 22% on every dollar. You'll pay:
  • 10% on the first portion
  • 12% on the next portion
  • 22% only if your withdrawals push you into higher brackets
Your effective tax rate in retirement will likely be much lower than your current marginal rate, especially since most people live on less income in retirement.

Why This Makes Roth IRAs Even More Attractive Here's the kicker: when you contribute to a Roth IRA, you're paying taxes at your marginal rate today. But the money you're "competing against" – what you would have paid on traditional IRA withdrawals – gets taxed at your effective rate in retirement.
This means the Roth IRA doesn't need to outperform by your full marginal tax rate to come out ahead. The hurdle is actually much lower.
The real comparison:
  • Roth: Pay 22% marginal rate now, grow tax-free forever
  • Traditional: Save 22% now, pay ~12-15% effective rate later
Suddenly, the Roth math looks a lot more favorable.

The 2025 Tax Deadline Everyone's Talking About With the current tax cuts expiring at the end of 2025, we're expecting major discussions about tax policy throughout this year. The government uses something called "scoring" that only looks at revenue impacts over 10 years, which creates some interesting blind spots.
For example, when a 40-year-old contributes to a Roth IRA today, the government loses tax revenue immediately. But they won't see the benefit of avoiding future tax revenue loss for 25+ years – well beyond their 10-year scoring window.
This timing mismatch might actually work in your favor if tax rates increase in the future.

High Earners: Don't Write Off Roth Accounts Yet We constantly hear from high-income earners who assume traditional accounts are automatically better because of their current tax bracket. But even if you're making $200,000+ annually, Roth accounts often make sense if you have 8+ years until retirement.
Why? Because of that marginal vs. effective rate difference we discussed. Plus, Roth accounts offer additional benefits that traditional accounts don't:
  • No required minimum distributions (RMDs)
  • Tax-free inheritance for beneficiaries
  • More flexible withdrawal strategies in retirement
  • Protection against future tax rate increases

The Real-World Roth IRA Advantage Let's say you're 40 years old deciding between Roth and traditional contributions. Even if you're in a high tax bracket today, consider:
  1. Your retirement income needs: Will you really need the same gross income in retirement when your mortgage is paid off and you're not saving for retirement anymore?
  2. Future tax policy: Do you think tax rates will be higher or lower in 20-25 years?
  3. Estate planning: Roth accounts pass to heirs tax-free, while traditional accounts create a tax burden for your beneficiaries.
  4. Flexibility: Roth contributions can be withdrawn penalty-free anytime, giving you more options during your working years.

Getting the Roth vs. Traditional Decision Right The key is running the actual numbers based on your specific situation, not relying on oversimplified rules of thumb. You need to consider:
  • Current marginal tax rate vs. projected effective retirement tax rate
  • Time horizon until retirement
  • Expected retirement income needs
  • Other retirement account balances
  • Estate planning goals
This is exactly the kind of analysis we do for every client. We don't just look at your retirement accounts in isolation – we examine your entire financial picture to optimize every decision.

The Future of Financial Planning At Jazz Wealth, we'e developed something we call the "Dough Score" – a comprehensive system that lets us see every aspect of your financial life to make truly informed recommendations. Should you put 21% down on that house purchase? Can you afford that vacation? How should you optimize between Roth and traditional accounts?
Most advisors only focus on retirement planning. We want to help you make better decisions across every area of your financial life.
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The Bottom Line on Roth vs. Traditional Don't fall into the marginal tax rate trap when evaluating Roth accounts. The real math is more nuanced and often more favorable to Roth contributions than the simplified comparisons suggest.
Given the uncertainty around future tax policy and the unique benefits of tax-free growth, Roth accounts deserve serious consideration for most people – even high earners who might assume they're "priced out" of the Roth advantage.
The key is getting the analysis right based on your specific situation, not relying on generalized rules that miss the important details.

Next Steps:
Want to maximize your Roth IRA strategy? Download our comprehensive "Maximize Your Roth IRA in 2025" guide for free at www.jazzwealth.com/rothiraguide. Inside, you'll discover advanced strategies that could add $800,000+ to your tax-free retirement wealth, including backdoor Roth techniques, conversion blueprints, and our complete 30-60-90 day action plan.

Get Your Dough Straight Tax planning isn't just about this year's return – it's about optimizing your lifetime tax efficiency. With major tax policy changes potentially coming in 2025, now is the perfect time to review your Roth vs. traditional strategy.
At Jazz Wealth Management, we help clients navigate these complex decisions by looking at the complete picture, not just the surface-level math that leads so many people astray.
Ready to optimize your Roth IRA strategy with the real math? Jazz Wealth Management was ranked 66th best financial advisor in the United States by USA Today. Visit jazzwealth.com to see how we help clients make informed decisions about their entire financial picture.




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